At COP 25 in Madrid, the Center for International Forestry Research (CIFOR) focused a discussion on the intersection of gender issues, finance and technology, bringing to light the fact that if social issues are not at the center of landscape projects, even the best intentions to improve livelihoods can go awry. Here, CIFOR scientists Markus Ihalainen and Houria Djoudi, two of the foremost researchers in this field, discuss the trade-offs of honing in on carbon and how their research feeds into the COP’s negotiations on carbon markets and Article 6 of the Paris Agreement.